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As we finish Phase III	myPIC32 Administrator	1/23/09 10:10 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	bmorse	1/24/09 10:09 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	jamodio	1/24/09 10:15 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	jgray	1/25/09 4:20 AM
RE: As we finish Phase III	jamodio	1/25/09 5:43 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	jgray	1/26/09 6:38 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	gbrettell	1/26/09 9:07 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	jamodio	1/26/09 10:26 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	saipan59	1/27/09 2:31 AM
RE: As we finish Phase III	jamodio	1/31/09 4:05 AM
RE: As we finish Phase III	gbrettell	2/2/09 10:17 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	first128 Contestant	1/29/09 3:55 PM
RE: As we finish Phase III	jamodio	1/31/09 3:57 AM

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As we finish Phase III

1/23/09 10:10 PM

The Freeze Stage of Phase III is just a few hours away and we want to make sure we attend any urgent needs of the community.
Remember the best and fastest way to contact us is emailing Sandro using our Contact Us link.

We thank all those members who contacted us recently using this link to advice us of a problem in the forums page. Unfortunately none of you would've done it using this thread since that was precisely the problem (dah!).

We have been and will continue to monitor closely all sensitive areas of the site and this designated thread for any signs of trouble. We are happy to say that we haven't had to address any issues here since 10/22/08.

We take this opportunity to wish all Phase III contestants the best of luck and to the entire community our thanks and appreciation for keeping this site thriving.

Looking forward to Phase IV the final stage of myPIC32.

Sincerely,

The myPIC32 Team.

bmorse Rank: Jedi Master Posts: 345 Join Date: 4/17/08 Recent Posts	RE: As we finish Phase III 1/24/09 10:09 PM as a reply to myPIC32 Administrator. Top The Freeze Stage of Phase III is just a few hours away ..... HOURS???? I thought we had a couple more days????

jamodio Rank: Jedi Master Posts: 261 Join Date: 4/21/08 Recent Posts	RE: As we finish Phase III 1/24/09 10:15 PM as a reply to bmorse . Top Perhaps their clock works like this website ... I stopped posting to the forum because I'm tired of wasting time dealing with it. Cheers

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RE: As we finish Phase III

1/25/09 4:20 AM as a reply to myPIC32 Administrator.

I did use the 'contact us' link to report a MAJOR problem Thursday (1/22/09), but got ignored until today (after I sent another message). And now, it's too late. No new votes are being allowed because practically everyone trying to 'join' cannot log in. Instead, they get 'account temporarily unavailable'.

Sure, I take responsibility in waiting till my project was basically done before I asked people to vote for it. But of the 40 to 50 people I expected to vote for me this past week, only one succeeded.

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RE: As we finish Phase III

1/25/09 5:43 PM as a reply to jgray .

To be frank,

with all the website issues and after the fiasco of last phase voting I'm not willing to bother
people for votes, and I prefer to use my creativity and time on the design and provide
a good service for paying customers.

I thought we were in a design contest not a popularity one ...

Good luck everybody.

Kind Regards
Jorge

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RE: As we finish Phase III

1/26/09 6:38 PM as a reply to jamodio .

I mostly agree. Part of me feels like I'm giving in when I ask so many people to vote for me

. But I've also been in the contracting game and consumer electronics business long enough to realize that compromises like this are normal. Sometimes you just have to play the game that's dealt whether you agree with it or not.

That doesn't mean I'd start creating new accounts just to stay in, though.

And nice job on the project and the video, Jorge.

I've learned since my earlier message that voting isn't frozen yet (or at least the admin that responded didn't think they are supposed to be). I'm glad to know that, but would like to know how long voting will be open.

Is there any chance employees of the sponsors will vote? I'd still like to see an influx of unbiased votes.

gbrettell Rank: Padawan Posts: 35 Join Date: 5/15/08 Recent Posts	RE: As we finish Phase III 1/26/09 9:07 PM as a reply to jgray . Top jgray: Is there any chance employees of the sponsors will vote? I'd still like to see an influx of unbiased votes. ] That would be great ... I agree with un-biased voting -- I feel 'doomed' otherwise. Good luck y'all ... now I need some sleep! [yawn]

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RE: As we finish Phase III

1/26/09 10:26 PM as a reply to jgray .

Thanks for your comments jgray.

I didn't find anywhere a clear indication for how long the voting process will be open.

What sounds ironic with this process is that people already voted before we finished with
this phase, then what people have been voting for ?

Also, besides clearing the votes and ratings from the previous phase nothing seems to
have changed to make the process more transparent and fair.

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

Best Regards
Jorge

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RE: As we finish Phase III

1/27/09 2:31 AM as a reply to jamodio .

I count 19 projects that appear to have 'finished' phase 3 (not counting RadioRuler who has stated that he is bowing out).

So almost half of us have a chance...!

It's never been stated how the community votes are really counted. If the community counts for 50%..., well, 50% of what? If the 3 judges are the other 50%, how does it work?

I guess one way would be like this:
Assume there are a total of 333 community votes across all the projects, then each judge gets to cast 111 votes in total, for any project that meets the basic requirements.

Or, it could be that the 3 judges get together and agree on their top 8, then each of those top 8 gets [333 / 8 = 41.625] votes added to their community votes. It would be possible for the judges to deliberately 'skew' their votes to help folks that don't have many community votes. So suppose 'A' has 100 C-votes, and 'B' has 10 C-votes, but the judges think that 'B' is a better project, they could help 'stuff the ballot-box' for 'B' to push him into the top 8.

However it works, I'm hoping that it works in my favor, since I don't have very many community votes...

Pete

first128 Contestant Rank: Youngling Posts: 4 Join Date: 4/16/08 Recent Posts	RE: As we finish Phase III 1/29/09 3:55 PM as a reply to myPIC32 Administrator. Top Just testing

jamodio Rank: Jedi Master Posts: 261 Join Date: 4/21/08 Recent Posts	RE: As we finish Phase III 1/31/09 3:57 AM as a reply to myPIC32 Administrator. Top Why are still projects with the software code as private ? Kind of interesting for people to be voting for something they can't see ... Cheers

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RE: As we finish Phase III

1/31/09 4:05 AM as a reply to saipan59 .

I don't know if there is any rational and fair way to handle the voting process. For sure Microchip
will not change the rules in the middle of the contest to avoid becoming liable.

I like the idea of people participating and a technical community to rate and vote for the
best designs, but actually the "community" does not exist, it became mostly a club of fans,
friends and family of the contestants, then what relevance the votes have to help
pick the best designs ... imho, not much.

Cheers

gbrettell Rank: Padawan Posts: 35 Join Date: 5/15/08 Recent Posts	RE: As we finish Phase III 2/2/09 10:17 PM as a reply to jamodio . Top I agree ... it discredits the whole outcome.